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	<description>for the unconditional military defence of numerous things</description>
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		<title>By: puppet</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>puppet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i remember being about 11 years old. the war in former yugoslavia broke out. Everyone we knew would watch the news to find out what was happening. Trying to displace the anxiety, the trepitadation. People were desperate for pieces of information as to what was happening, how far the front line was from the village where they grew up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They would plan their channel surfing, getting as much news in as possible, trying to de-veil the unknown. Flick through 7-10, stay glued to SBS. Video tape the extended report on ABC, so that we could watch it again &amp; again. Channel surfing became an important skill in the task of linking migrants to their home communities. We cross ourselves, praying for hope; we channel surf, searching for the vindication of our hope.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;everyone &#039;we&#039; knew would partake in this practice. But who is this &#039;we&#039;?? Is it yogo&#039;s? Surely not. It is a &#039;we&#039; that is neither west, nor east, south or north. it is a limbo that looks as if it were a junk yard of so many other suppoedly uniform cultures. No Yuogo-land, no Jugoslavija. That is a dead land, a non-place, &#039;the&#039; failed project. Now we are &#039;croatian&#039;. It is the brave new forever. An ancient history was found for a place that had only begun to exist. Maps could not be drawn because we were yet to define the countries borders. It was freedom with an insidious undercurrent.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was the birth of the nation. It was the birth of the &#039;we&#039;. Or perhaps what you have so aptly (and eloquently) called structural narcissism. Mourning, grief, anxiety, &amp; searching are all so inherantly part of the nation, of the &#039;we&#039;. They are constitutive elements that excite the affectual elements of identity production. The unique arousal &amp; displacement that comes with such trauma constructs us. Like scar tissue that remains after a severe wound, so does cultural/national identity sick out after a trauma, letting it self be known.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There was an old slavic folk tale of of the construction of a town that required the sacrifice of the wife of the young prince to applease the spirits of the land. In many ways this mirrors our psyche&#039;s own need to generate communities, separated by their own mythical walls based in the principles of loss. The spirit of the dead constiutes the life of the nation. The nation is the living dead. The nation. The dead. The mourning.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i remember being about 11 years old. the war in former yugoslavia broke out. Everyone we knew would watch the news to find out what was happening. Trying to displace the anxiety, the trepitadation. People were desperate for pieces of information as to what was happening, how far the front line was from the village where they grew up.</p>

<p>They would plan their channel surfing, getting as much news in as possible, trying to de-veil the unknown. Flick through 7-10, stay glued to SBS. Video tape the extended report on ABC, so that we could watch it again &amp; again. Channel surfing became an important skill in the task of linking migrants to their home communities. We cross ourselves, praying for hope; we channel surf, searching for the vindication of our hope.</p>

<p>everyone &#8216;we&#8217; knew would partake in this practice. But who is this &#8216;we&#8217;?? Is it yogo&#8217;s? Surely not. It is a &#8216;we&#8217; that is neither west, nor east, south or north. it is a limbo that looks as if it were a junk yard of so many other suppoedly uniform cultures. No Yuogo-land, no Jugoslavija. That is a dead land, a non-place, &#8216;the&#8217; failed project. Now we are &#8216;croatian&#8217;. It is the brave new forever. An ancient history was found for a place that had only begun to exist. Maps could not be drawn because we were yet to define the countries borders. It was freedom with an insidious undercurrent.</p>

<p>It was the birth of the nation. It was the birth of the &#8216;we&#8217;. Or perhaps what you have so aptly (and eloquently) called structural narcissism. Mourning, grief, anxiety, &amp; searching are all so inherantly part of the nation, of the &#8216;we&#8217;. They are constitutive elements that excite the affectual elements of identity production. The unique arousal &amp; displacement that comes with such trauma constructs us. Like scar tissue that remains after a severe wound, so does cultural/national identity sick out after a trauma, letting it self be known.</p>

<p>There was an old slavic folk tale of of the construction of a town that required the sacrifice of the wife of the young prince to applease the spirits of the land. In many ways this mirrors our psyche&#8217;s own need to generate communities, separated by their own mythical walls based in the principles of loss. The spirit of the dead constiutes the life of the nation. The nation is the living dead. The nation. The dead. The mourning.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jebni</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>jebni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christian, I&#039;ve been trying to avoid Australian media while I&#039;ve been in HK, but perhaps I&#039;ll just have to indulge in the horror. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian, I&#8217;ve been trying to avoid Australian media while I&#8217;ve been in HK, but perhaps I&#8217;ll just have to indulge in the horror. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jebni</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>jebni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Mark. Sorry about the spam-filtering -- it automatically grabs comments with more than a certain number of links.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark. Sorry about the spam-filtering &#8212; it automatically grabs comments with more than a certain number of links.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1255</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 06:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Ben, thanks for the post - it really sparked &lt;a href=&quot;http://marklawrence.blogspot.com/2006/07/grief.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a lot of reflection for me&lt;/a&gt;. Some &lt;a href=&quot;http://marklawrence.blogspot.com/2006/07/life-in-bag.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other notes&lt;/a&gt; on Lebanon and Australian responses are on my blog. Hope friends and family are safe.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben, thanks for the post &#8211; it really sparked <a href="http://marklawrence.blogspot.com/2006/07/grief.html" rel="nofollow">a lot of reflection for me</a>. Some <a href="http://marklawrence.blogspot.com/2006/07/life-in-bag.html" rel="nofollow">other notes</a> on Lebanon and Australian responses are on my blog. Hope friends and family are safe.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Christian McCrea</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian McCrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 06:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wonder how long before the Cronulla rhetoric mentioned by Melissa opens up into &quot;we are taking our sweet time because of all the gang-rapes that they commit&quot;. I give it... 48 hours.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.</p>

<p>I wonder how long before the Cronulla rhetoric mentioned by Melissa opens up into &#8220;we are taking our sweet time because of all the gang-rapes that they commit&#8221;. I give it&#8230; 48 hours.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;nope, sad to say, new york is over. teaching starts up next week.  it&#039;s always a bloody awful time to come home these days.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nope, sad to say, new york is over. teaching starts up next week.  it&#8217;s always a bloody awful time to come home these days.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jebni</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>jebni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s all hope. Are you guys still in New York?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all hope. Are you guys still in New York?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
		<link>http://antipopper.com/blog/panic/comment-page-1/#comment-1251</link>
		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hi ben -- melissa h from sydney uni --&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i hope family and friends are safe and sound.  i have extended family in lebanon too.  you wouldn&#039;t believe the rhetoric on tv here about &quot;getting aussies home&quot; -- it&#039;s as though Cronulla never happened.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i ran across your blog somehow and twigged that it&#039;s you.   i hope hong kong has been good.  kate sends her best.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi ben &#8212; melissa h from sydney uni &#8211;</p>

<p>i hope family and friends are safe and sound.  i have extended family in lebanon too.  you wouldn&#8217;t believe the rhetoric on tv here about &#8220;getting aussies home&#8221; &#8212; it&#8217;s as though Cronulla never happened.</p>

<p>i ran across your blog somehow and twigged that it&#8217;s you.   i hope hong kong has been good.  kate sends her best.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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