Comments on: looking away http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/ for the unconditional military defence of numerous things Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:28:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: az http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-938 az Wed, 13 Oct 2004 03:09:28 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-938 <p>Well, obviously, but I'm in the academic system too. In cultural studies. I'll freely admit to being a total tosser any day of the week :) And my criticisms, though harsh, are still valid. Maybe more valid <em>because</em> they're so harsh -- and because, as I made totally clear in my response on the list, I'm also susceptible to the yearning for a 'better' ALP. And when I said tossers, I was thinking more of those who got so snobbish about Kath and Kim, dumb Liberal voters etc.</p> Well, obviously, but I’m in the academic system too. In cultural studies. I’ll freely admit to being a total tosser any day of the week :) And my criticisms, though harsh, are still valid. Maybe more valid because they’re so harsh — and because, as I made totally clear in my response on the list, I’m also susceptible to the yearning for a ‘better’ ALP. And when I said tossers, I was thinking more of those who got so snobbish about Kath and Kim, dumb Liberal voters etc.

]]> By: mc gregg http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-937 mc gregg Wed, 13 Oct 2004 01:04:36 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-937 <p>dude - berlant just headlined the biggest cultural studies conference on the planet. and she's an academic.</p> dude – berlant just headlined the biggest cultural studies conference on the planet. and she’s an academic.

]]> By: az http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-936 az Wed, 13 Oct 2004 00:18:40 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-936 <p>I'm up for soccer riots anytime.</p> <p>Your comments about the ALP remind me of this cultural studies list I'm on, on which many left academics have been bitching, moaning and threatening suicide since Sunday. Some of them would like to know why Latham didn't talk up his 'better stance' on immigration or Iraq or whatever, while others thought he should have and were really angry that he didn't. One person argued Latham was great, because he had the guts to push a social policy platform based on community consultation, while others are full of contempt for the aspirational, Plasma TV-toting set whose lack of intelligence is obviously to blame for Howard's win.</p> <p>I forget how much I hate academics and what absolute tossers they are. Reading this after all that was a breath of fresh air.</p> <p>By the way, speaking of compassion, I found a book edited by Lauren Berlant the other day called <i>Compassion</i> -- don't know if you like Berlant, but it's a critique of 'compassionate politics' of all kinds. It looked pretty cool.</p> I’m up for soccer riots anytime.

Your comments about the ALP remind me of this cultural studies list I’m on, on which many left academics have been bitching, moaning and threatening suicide since Sunday. Some of them would like to know why Latham didn’t talk up his ‘better stance’ on immigration or Iraq or whatever, while others thought he should have and were really angry that he didn’t. One person argued Latham was great, because he had the guts to push a social policy platform based on community consultation, while others are full of contempt for the aspirational, Plasma TV-toting set whose lack of intelligence is obviously to blame for Howard’s win.

I forget how much I hate academics and what absolute tossers they are. Reading this after all that was a breath of fresh air.

By the way, speaking of compassion, I found a book edited by Lauren Berlant the other day called Compassion — don’t know if you like Berlant, but it’s a critique of ‘compassionate politics’ of all kinds. It looked pretty cool.

]]> By: nik http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-935 nik Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:17:12 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-935 <p>yup, my feelings exactly... last night the flatties and I were having a conversation on this topic: how the feeling was one of disappointment with the 'australian people'. Which we all thought was a strange reaction because its entirely misplaced (to say the least). And we had this feeling because the idea of a liberal controlled senate (which means not only all of their previous unpassed bills becoming passed, but perhaps the end of prefferential voting in the senate) is fucking depressing, but also distracting: when have we ever been able to really count on the senate, or the government for that matter? All the effort that goes into electoral politics is a waste, and perhaps the hope to take from this is that it will be seen as such by more people. Already there are numerous peoples and groups talking about completely ignoring the governmental processes and going straight to the site of the problem, which can only be a good thing...</p> <p>(maybe)</p> yup, my feelings exactly… last night the flatties and I were having a conversation on this topic: how the feeling was one of disappointment with the ‘australian people’. Which we all thought was a strange reaction because its entirely misplaced (to say the least). And we had this feeling because the idea of a liberal controlled senate (which means not only all of their previous unpassed bills becoming passed, but perhaps the end of prefferential voting in the senate) is fucking depressing, but also distracting: when have we ever been able to really count on the senate, or the government for that matter? All the effort that goes into electoral politics is a waste, and perhaps the hope to take from this is that it will be seen as such by more people. Already there are numerous peoples and groups talking about completely ignoring the governmental processes and going straight to the site of the problem, which can only be a good thing…

(maybe)

]]> By: claire http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-934 claire Mon, 11 Oct 2004 07:20:56 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-934 <p>just heard the news about the election. my french friend told me after he saw it on slovak tv. this is how i get news these days!</p> <p>it certainly didn't make me want to come back to australia in a hurry.</p> <p>mostly i am really glad to be missing the white liberal crap about cry the beloved country. the beat up about what a nice country we were before howard or the tampa is a bit much.</p> <p>ask anyone who does not share in the privileges that the "white nation" of australia brings what australia's compassionate heart was like. i am sure they will have a different answer to the white liberal moaning about how nice we were.</p> <p>anyway good luck with it all. and remember, if voting changed anything they would make it illegal ;)</p> just heard the news about the election. my french friend told me after he saw it on slovak tv. this is how i get news these days!

it certainly didn’t make me want to come back to australia in a hurry.

mostly i am really glad to be missing the white liberal crap about cry the beloved country. the beat up about what a nice country we were before howard or the tampa is a bit much.

ask anyone who does not share in the privileges that the “white nation” of australia brings what australia’s compassionate heart was like. i am sure they will have a different answer to the white liberal moaning about how nice we were.

anyway good luck with it all. and remember, if voting changed anything they would make it illegal ;)

]]> By: Christian McCrea http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/comment-page-1/#comment-933 Christian McCrea Mon, 11 Oct 2004 05:46:57 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/looking-away/#comment-933 <p>Brilliantly put. And thanks for the reminder about The Greens in 1996.</p> <p>My angry drunken rant at www.livejournal.com/users/delve ended with "We Will Play Fair No Longer". I sense potentials in media action groups, utterly semiophagous (Which I take as 'To Devour and Defecate Signs', the great new political slogan) in determination. Launching "The Centre for Australian Progress" modelled on asynchronous right-wing bodies in the US - that produce spin as quickly as events arise. They have written the rules of a game they can't win forever.</p> Brilliantly put. And thanks for the reminder about The Greens in 1996.

My angry drunken rant at http://www.livejournal.com/users/delve ended with “We Will Play Fair No Longer”. I sense potentials in media action groups, utterly semiophagous (Which I take as ‘To Devour and Defecate Signs’, the great new political slogan) in determination. Launching “The Centre for Australian Progress” modelled on asynchronous right-wing bodies in the US – that produce spin as quickly as events arise. They have written the rules of a game they can’t win forever.

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