Comments on: cross the border, cat lovers http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/ for the unconditional military defence of numerous things Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:28:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Christian McCrea http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Christian McCrea Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:50:28 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-956 <p>I just finished re-reading The Filth last week; I think you've nailed Greg Feely on the combed-over head; but you can also never forget that he's never a real narrative; the parapersonality discourse hangs over him like rotting drywall, a ten foot cockroach penis ready to burst through the door and ruin his day. Greg Feely is not merely a veneer, but escape, a reduction of the biopolitical into an unexcited state in order to rest. Oh wait.. that's what you're saying, isn't it?</p> <p>So... I had this very obvious comics discussion a while ago, and you'd be the perfect person to inform it further as I'm still not satisfied that its done with; the position I was presented with was "The Invisibles = Cultural Studies."</p> <p>Did I mention I'm doing a paper in the middle of the year called "Magneto Was Right" about the anarch as hero? And yes I'm planning to get a t-shirt!</p> <p>..and I got an extension for Blogstalk as I'm sick, so give yourself some extra days too!</p> I just finished re-reading The Filth last week; I think you’ve nailed Greg Feely on the combed-over head; but you can also never forget that he’s never a real narrative; the parapersonality discourse hangs over him like rotting drywall, a ten foot cockroach penis ready to burst through the door and ruin his day. Greg Feely is not merely a veneer, but escape, a reduction of the biopolitical into an unexcited state in order to rest. Oh wait.. that’s what you’re saying, isn’t it?

So… I had this very obvious comics discussion a while ago, and you’d be the perfect person to inform it further as I’m still not satisfied that its done with; the position I was presented with was “The Invisibles = Cultural Studies.”

Did I mention I’m doing a paper in the middle of the year called “Magneto Was Right” about the anarch as hero? And yes I’m planning to get a t-shirt!

..and I got an extension for Blogstalk as I’m sick, so give yourself some extra days too!

]]> By: Glen Fuller http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-955 Glen Fuller Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:03:19 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-955 <p>Hey Jean, affirmation can be as critical as resistance, and sometimes more so... plus it doesn't mean you can't speak about affirmation in a critical way... enthusiasts? Enthusiasm!!</p> Hey Jean, affirmation can be as critical as resistance, and sometimes more so… plus it doesn’t mean you can’t speak about affirmation in a critical way… enthusiasts? Enthusiasm!!

]]> By: jean http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-954 jean Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:23:43 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-954 <p>Oh, and yes - the "what kind of publics" question is where it gets really interesting - I totally agree with that.</p> Oh, and yes – the “what kind of publics” question is where it gets really interesting – I totally agree with that.

]]> By: jean http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-953 jean Mon, 28 Mar 2005 01:22:42 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-953 <p>I think leaving participation hanging is as big a problem as leaving resistance hanging - resistance against/within what?? In fact, there is a place in my thesis notes where I have precisely the "participation in what?" question in honking great letters. So far, what I've done about that is to engage in the cultural citizenship/cultural public sphere literature. Which is proving quite productive - I really think though that you get to the answers empirically, specifically and extrapolate from there - which would be no different in the case of 'resistance' - it's just that each key term takes you into different territory. And I'm suspicious of the need for cultural studies practitioners to sound relentlessly 'critical' in the sense of never, ever being celebratory in case you are mistaken for a cultural dupe. I'm trying to be brave about that, and risk being thought of as a person that says "yay" every now and then. And not just 'but'. I'd be interested btw to hear about how you think your own empirical work (ala the storybox project) fits into this conversation?</p> I think leaving participation hanging is as big a problem as leaving resistance hanging – resistance against/within what?? In fact, there is a place in my thesis notes where I have precisely the “participation in what?” question in honking great letters. So far, what I’ve done about that is to engage in the cultural citizenship/cultural public sphere literature. Which is proving quite productive – I really think though that you get to the answers empirically, specifically and extrapolate from there – which would be no different in the case of ‘resistance’ – it’s just that each key term takes you into different territory. And I’m suspicious of the need for cultural studies practitioners to sound relentlessly ‘critical’ in the sense of never, ever being celebratory in case you are mistaken for a cultural dupe. I’m trying to be brave about that, and risk being thought of as a person that says “yay” every now and then. And not just ‘but’. I’d be interested btw to hear about how you think your own empirical work (ala the storybox project) fits into this conversation?

]]> By: jebni http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-952 jebni Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:17:02 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-952 <p>In terms of Adbusters' moralist disavowals, yet yes, I'd definitely agree.</p> <p>I've always thought that one should approach "resistance" in a deterritorialised way, on the Deleuzian level of "physics". It's not a perfect analogy, but whenever I say the word "resistance" in political terms, I always try to think of <i>electrical</i> resistance. I would distinguish this from "agency" (the capacity to act) because resistance has more connotations of being molecularly engaged with the flow of power through space. And resistance is necessarily transformative: electrical resistance usually produces heat, which is kinda neat...</p> <p>When you leave "participation" hanging without qualification, I automatically get visions of a cheesy, all-encompassing, "Life: Be In It"-style public sphere of totalising biopolitical incorporation, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it :)... In any case, though, I'd say that "participation in <em>what</em>?" is a crucial question -- what kind of public are we talking about, and what kind of publics can we generate?</p> In terms of Adbusters’ moralist disavowals, yet yes, I’d definitely agree.

I’ve always thought that one should approach “resistance” in a deterritorialised way, on the Deleuzian level of “physics”. It’s not a perfect analogy, but whenever I say the word “resistance” in political terms, I always try to think of electrical resistance. I would distinguish this from “agency” (the capacity to act) because resistance has more connotations of being molecularly engaged with the flow of power through space. And resistance is necessarily transformative: electrical resistance usually produces heat, which is kinda neat…

When you leave “participation” hanging without qualification, I automatically get visions of a cheesy, all-encompassing, “Life: Be In It”-style public sphere of totalising biopolitical incorporation, but perhaps I’m reading too much into it :)… In any case, though, I’d say that “participation in what?” is a crucial question — what kind of public are we talking about, and what kind of publics can we generate?

]]> By: jean http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-951 jean Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:46:58 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-951 <p>P.S. "lives where resistance used to?" please shoot me.</p> <p>P.P.S. this connects back to our shared eyebrow-cocking/furrowing in regard to adbusters et al, no?</p> P.S. “lives where resistance used to?” please shoot me.

P.P.S. this connects back to our shared eyebrow-cocking/furrowing in regard to adbusters et al, no?

]]> By: jean http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/comment-page-1/#comment-950 jean Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:40:42 +0000 http://antipopper.com/blog/cross-the-border-cat-lovers/#comment-950 <p>Um, I think you agree with me/us...that is, I agree with you. As I did before when it was more about the homemade birthday cards ;)</p> <p>I'm all about the kitten narratives, the why can't i get a boyfriend/girlfriend sagas, the I <em>love</em> cooking and this is how I made my mum a birthday cake sagas, as against the takingphotosofmyshadowwithadistressedpolaroid style of 'everydayness'. I just don't need it to be about 'resistance' as much as it's about agency and participation (harrumph, go on, tell me agency is neoliberal nonsense that lives where resistance used to;)</p> Um, I think you agree with me/us…that is, I agree with you. As I did before when it was more about the homemade birthday cards ;)

I’m all about the kitten narratives, the why can’t i get a boyfriend/girlfriend sagas, the I love cooking and this is how I made my mum a birthday cake sagas, as against the takingphotosofmyshadowwithadistressedpolaroid style of ‘everydayness’. I just don’t need it to be about ‘resistance’ as much as it’s about agency and participation (harrumph, go on, tell me agency is neoliberal nonsense that lives where resistance used to;)

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